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a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.27 20:20:00 - [1] - Quote ME 10%, TE 20% (perfect) BPO Starting bid.......125 bil Reserve............150 bil Buyout..............175 bil Sniper rule.......1 day End of auction..Aug, 30
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.28 18:30:00 - [2] - Quote Now T2 BPO is the best long time investment instrument paying high dividends being used in production.
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.29 22:59:00 - [3] - Quote A new day
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.07.31 23:01:00 - [4] - Quote Agata Matahari: Thank you very much for your opinion! Rusot: Thanks a lot for the initial bid you've made! it's true that after the patch which we've got 10 days ago, we should reprice some ethernal values like T2 BPOs. and I suppose that somebody can say: T2 BPOs are worth less... but i remember a phrase said by a wise man: Buy land, they're not making it anymore (Mark Twain) being rephrased in EVE: Buy T2 BPOs, they're not making it anymore p.s. Anyway initial prise has been changed according to the initial bid and the new reality. Good luck!
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.03 09:10:00 - [5] - Quote still active
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.04 21:25:00 - [6] - Quote Claymore price 299,4 mil ISK per unit, Jita 4-4
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.05 19:30:00 - [7] - Quote Cost of Construction (No teams) 232.8 mil ISK per unit, Jita 4-4 ask prices
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.07 21:10:00 - [8] - Quote 66.6 mil/ship * 25 ships/month = 1.67 bil/month = 20 bil/year net profit
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.08 19:20:00 - [9] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: 20b thanks for the bump! highest bid is 40 for now reserve not met
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.09 19:11:00 - [10] - Quote still the best BPO to invest
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.10 18:50:00 - [11] - Quote Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote: You don't know that, stop spreading rumors. does it mean you have any real proof they do produce new T2 BPOs now? or just 'spreading rumors'? USS OMAHA: thanks for the bid!
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.11 23:42:00 - [12] - Quote up
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.14 20:00:00 - [13] - Quote 20 bil/year net profit BPO still here
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.15 20:53:00 - [14] - Quote Friday bump
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.16 22:04:00 - [15] - Quote Don't waste your opportunity to get constant cashflow BPO
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.17 20:34:00 - [16] - Quote bump
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:58:00 - [17] - Quote it's monday, time to think about ingame money source
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.19 23:36:00 - [18] - Quote Elysium Mons, thanks for the bid! Terminator Cindy thanks for your message a lot! i've started my calculations and now i can definitely say that the profit i mentioned in this topic (direct production at POS) is not optimal and has to be much HIGHER if i use BPO copies to make ships. approximately 1.4 times higher, so we get at least 28 bil per year (exact numbers will be later). as for the 'better alternatives' you probably mean PLEX which gives average 3% per month for a long horizon (794.5m now and 551m a year ago). but PLEX is very volatile. for example if you bought a bunch of PLEX a month ago for 800m/unit, now to cover your current expenditures you'd sell it for 794.5m. add taxation and your loss will be more obvious in this case. PLEX is nice for a buy and hold strategy, not to finance your daily needs. and of course being a volatile instrument it has to offer higher payment for the risk. meanwhile T2 BPO generates stable cash flow everytime and every year costs more than before, it never depreciates. anyway we don't know its real price before this auction ends so i change 175 b/o for 'mail me'. thanks!
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.20 19:34:00 - [19] - Quote Ahora Velishi, Zahara Cody: CCP has no plans to liquidate T2 BPOs in the foreseeable future. Shigeru Shibuya: thank you for your thoughts about estimated profit for this BPO but theoretical approach makes you grossly underestimate actual results. exact numbers will be presented here in 3 days, when i'll be able to make all screenshots we need, but for now just a few facts as for my production cost: 1. nobody builds ships at NPC stations after last expantion as i know. POS based advanced ship assembly array activity bonuses are 25% reduction in time and 2% in materials. this way i make 25 ships a month. 2. components are made at the same POS where ships are built. when you have a manufacture alt she has 10 slots as a rule so there is no problem to make components by yourself. bonuses are the same 25% and 2% in time and materials. advanced moonmats purchased in Jita with Sell orders. 3. theoretically if you make copies (at the same POS) before you build ships you can significantly accelerate your production. in 3 days i'll post screenshots illustrating actual job duration.
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.21 23:38:00 - [20] - Quote Shigeru Shibuya wrote: - edit Why do we need screenshots to do math? This is spreadsheets in space . . . ... did I say anything about theoretic approach?
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:44:00 - [21] - Quote up
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.23 21:45:00 - [22] - Quote I Want ISK, thanks for the bid! sure, BPO will be moved to Jita 4-4
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.25 23:30:00 - [23] - Quote so, all the details concerning the BPO: every month you can make 29 (no teams) to 34(max team) copies. cost of copies: 3.67/29=0.161 mil ISP per copy. using 1 BPO copies you can build 29 to 34 ships a month, each job will cost you approx.10 mil ISK plus following components: 1. ecu22.2+1.3=23.5 2. nm55.9+3.2=59.1 3. pt2.9+0.1=3.0 4. lsc7.9+0.2=8.1 5. fccap57.1+4.3=61.4 6. dse14.1+0.3=14.4 7. nru4.1+0.1=4.2 cost of components =173.6 mil 331 construction blocks =2.8 m 265 morphite =1.6m 1 cyclone+21 RAM =36.8 m TOTAL COST: 10+173.6+2.8+1.6+36.8= 224.8 mil/ship Current price of Claymore (Jita 4-4) =299 mil/ship Profit per ship: 299-224.8=74.2 mil 29 copies * 74.2 = 2151.8 mil ISK/month or 25.8 bil ISK/year or if you use a team it's up to 34 copies * 74.2 = 2522.8 mil ISK/month or 30.3 bil ISK/year
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:21:00 - [24] - Quote a few days left
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.27 21:12:00 - [25] - Quote Shadow Preldent, you say that like there is a problem to build anything and there is no market in Jita full of competitors selling everything you can made Yes, any T2 ship BPO is more than an ordinary blueprint. It's a business which incorporates multiple operations. You copy your BPO, buy or mine minerals, build prototype ship, buy advanced moonmats (harvest and do your chemistry, if you have appropriate moons), manufacture components, sell them to yourself, simultaneously buy and finally construct your ship. After that, when you've done a lot of things which you technically could divide into stages, you receive your final product. Sure you can separate your final product into a number of different parts and actions but if you don't need to sell every part at every stage, if you sell your final product ONCE, this moment you receive all the profits you've made in process before. This way is there any sense to calculate every stage, when you receive summarized profit? Any inner stage included in your process to build your final product, which you sell? i'd be happy to get a BPO which needs a hundred operations, i'd receive guaranteed profit at least 99 times. sadly but there is no longer chain in EVE than T2 ships construction. And this highly profitable business is still for sale.
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.28 19:42:00 - [26] - Quote 2014.08.28
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.29 22:17:00 - [27] - Quote one day till the end of auction highest bid 80b for now
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.30 18:10:00 - [28] - Quote EVE Time: 2014.08.30 18:10
a warm Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.08.31 11:08:00 - [29] - Quote I Want ISK (EVE's only gambling engine IwantISK.com) is the winner, my congratulations! BPO is tranfered, money received, thank you!

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